STEVE LIESMAN: Let's talk about these interest rate forecasts that you're now publishing. There seems to be a lot of-- there's some disagreement between the statement which says that you expect it to remain-- low through mid-- through late 2014 and the forecast that came out later in the day. Which should the markets believe?
CHARLES PLOSSER: Well, I think two things. One is that interest rate projections in the SEP are not forecasts, people have to remember that they are projections of what each individual committee member thinks is appropriate policy, that is what should policy be, not what will policy be. And so they're making individual assumptions about the path of policy. And that reflects how over time that will reflect how policy evolves and the views of how the committee evolves.
In terms of the statement, the statement is a statement of policy, a statement by the committee. And it's reinforced by a vote of the FOMC. There's information content in both of those. If you look at the SEP projections of interest rates in the policy decisions you will see that there's a huge mass of people in and around 2014 and some beyond and some people sooner.
So it's not clear that the statement didn't reflect the modal view of what the committee and participants thought. But they are different exercises and so I think it's very important we understand the differences in our projections and the policy statement.
STEVE LIESMAN: If you watched the way the market reacted, they thought great at 12:30 when you said you expected it to remain low through 2014. But then we learned at 2:00 that there's not very much support for that later date on the board. Which is the right one?
CHARLES PLOSSER: Well, I think the fact of the matter is the statement's pretty clear although not as clear as it could be, that this is two-thousand-- late 2014 is contingent, it is conditional on the evolutions of the economy. Now, I think that we don't make that clear enough.
A lot of people have been reading the statement as if it was a commitment and it is not a commitment. And when you look at the SEP projections you-- it's pretty clear that everybody doesn't agree that this is a firm commitment. So it's not a commitment and it shouldn't be interpreted as a commitment. It's a conditional statement and I think revealing the projections in the SEP makes that even clearer that this is really not a commitment.
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STEVE LIESMAN: So Charlie, let's go back over this idea. If there's a conflict, and there was, but if there's a conflict between this policy statement of the calendar date and the SEP which one prevails?
CHARLES PLOSSER: Well, it's not clear that you want one dominate the other. One, the SEP projections are in fact the range of views of the committee. If you look at the policy statement of late 2014 and you looked at the modal value of the range of views it was probably pretty close. The idea is for them not to be.
You would think that the range of views would be captured in... I think having a calendar date in the statement is bad policy, I've said that over and over again. And by getting rid of the calendar date in the policy statement-- because I think it's bad communication, I think the SEP projections speak for themselves, they give you the view about where people currently stand.
What's important about that is that you will see over time when the next quarter comes and we do another SEP projections and you have the appropriate policy rates in there, you may very well see that change. It may go out further or it may actually begin to pull in. That's really a more informative way to think about forward guidance as we call it, from my perspective.